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Time for an update on the beyond ridiculous process that my husband has undertaken to be reinstated in his government job.
If you remember correctly, this was begun in late February . Yes, it was over four months ago that his old boss approved his return to the office after only a year of (apparently unhappy) retirement.
In that time we have sent resumes, met with onboarding teams and FAA representatives, corresponded with human resource officers and filled out more forms than I thought humanly possible. Every time we think we’re done? They send more.
Mind you, this is a man who spent 22 years in the Marine Corps, 6 with defense contractors, 2 with the American Embassy in Tunisia, and 20 with the FAA. In other words, the government knows him inside and out.
And yet….
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The position you have applied for requires a background investigation. You must complete the following tasks within 15 calendar days of receiving this email:
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We just had to jump through hoops for a background check. For the man who’s held Top Secret clearance more than half of his life.
The forms were unbelievable. It took over 2 1/2 hours to fill them out online. Don’t remember your supervisor’s telephone number from 1979? Well buddy, you’d better find it… the gov’t doesn’t like blank spaces.
They wanted a complete history of our parents, all four of whom are dead. They even wanted the exact date my grandparents stepped foot on American soil and became naturalized citizens. Uh… check the Ellis Island records because I have no friggin’ clue.
None of this was required when he started working there in 2001. Back then it was a resume, a handshake, see you Monday morning.
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Obtain two sets of fingerprints. If you are located near an FAA facility that provides fingerprinting services.
- You can make an appointment to have your fingerprints taken at no charge. You can also get fingerprinted at a local law enforcement agency. If going to a local law enforcement agency, bring two copies of the attached SF-87 (fingerprint card) to have your prints taken on, or you can be printed on a law enforcement agency provided card (two cards). We accept “ink prints” and “digital/electronic” prints. If your fingerprints are taken digitally, please ensure the agency can print them on card stock paper. Ensure all required identifying information is completed on the card and the finger-printing official signs both cards.
- Print, complete, and sign the Disclosure and Authorization Pertaining to Consumer Reports, DOT Form 1631 (attached).
- MAIL (FedEx/UPS/USPS) the following original forms to the Security POC listed below:
· DOT Form 1631
· Two fingerprints cards SF87s
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Oh, he really loved that part. Walking into the police station to be fingerprinted like a felon. Good times.
When that was done, sent and approved?
More forms. With oh so helpful instructions like these.
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As part of the hiring process, you will be completing forms online in the **** This email contains your personal web link and must be used to successfully complete the log-in process and begin completing your forms. Before filling out your forms that may contain ‘Personally Identifiable Information’ (PII), ensure you have installed the latest patches for the Internet browser you are using (i.e., Microsoft Edge, Google Chrome, etc.).
To access ****, click on the **** web link below to take you directly to the **** log in screen (do not copy/paste). Click the “Sign in with *****” button and follow the instructions with **** to authenticate your identity. It is important to note, that this email address must be used to register in ***** to access the *****. If the registered emails do not match, you will not be able to access the *****. If you need to use a different email address, please notify your Human Resources Contact included at the bottom of this email.
After a successful logon to *****, you will be redirected to the Rules of Behavior and Security Caution screen, and then onto the Common Information screen. Your first step will be to verify and update (as applicable) any information previously collected from you during the selection process. Be sure to review this information carefully, as it is used to pre-populate forms and payroll data. You will not be allowed to continue until you have completed all of the required fields.
Next you will be taken to the Forms List screen, which contains employment forms you are required to complete. Your prompt attention to complete and submit these time-sensitive forms for Human Resources (HR) approval is imperative. Please follow these steps to assist you in completing forms:
To open a form, click the “Open Form” button in the Tools column. As you are completing a form you may save it and return later to finish filling it out. You may also view your form via a “Completed PDF” at any time during this process. Once you have reviewed and completed the form (including any required electronic certifications and/or signatures), click the “Submit for Approval” button (located on both the top and bottom of the screen). You will then be presented with your Completed PDF as a final review prior to form submission. Once you have confirmed the forms submission, HR will be notified.
After a form has been submitted, an option to “Retract” will appear in the Forms List should you determine you need to pull the form submission back to make a form adjustment. NOTE: You may not retract a form that has been approved by HR.
Unless otherwise specified, please submit forms prior to your first day of employment. An HR Representative will review the form and either approve or reject the form. If the form is approved, there is no further action required by you. If a form is rejected it will show as “Rejected” in the form Status column. We recommend you frequently log into the system to check the status of your forms.
If you need assistance signing into the system or completing the online forms, please contact the Human Resources Specialist listed below at the number provided. Welcome on board!!
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Welcome aboard my *ss, we still weren’t done.
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I have sent you an ***** e-mail. Please go into the System and complete, electronically sign and submit the in-processing forms.
The Onboarding Team will give instructions regarding these forms: SF-61 Appointment Affidavit OF-306 Declaration For Federal Employment – Appointee Form
I-9 Employment Eligibility Verification Form SF-181 Race and Ethnicity SF-256 Handicap ID
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I swear… somewhere in a dark depressing cubicle, buried below ground in a secret government office building, a civil service computer programmer is getting his rocks off on the superfluous and redundant paperwork generated in the hiring process.
He gets paid per form, I just know it.
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Yesterday? Three… count them, three beneficiary forms that had to be filled out, printed, wet signed, witnessed by two people, scanned and sent back.
And after we did that? More forms.
I swear the only thing they don’t know at this point is how often we have sex… but now that I mention it, we may have answered that as well.
When (hopefully) the last form was completed and sent? We received this…
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I asked the husband to let me fill out this survey. He refused.
I begged the husband to let me fill out this survey. He refused again.
I seriously wanted to fill out this survey.
In all honestly, I have never in my entire life wanted to fill out a survey so badly.
But no.
I was forbidden.
😉
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Maybe it’s the powers to be trying to tell hime to stay retired.
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If so, he’s not listening.
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O.M.G!!! They really, really make sure you really, really want to work for them! Your hubby obviously is ready and willing to.
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He is.
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I have a headache. 😐
Perhaps a nice little part-time job at the local hardware store might be a little more up the alley? 😀
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If only…
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I would say at the end, but no there is no ‘end’. So at some indeterminate step there is a meme with Captain Hook which reads ” Good Form Peter…” Then there is the line from Men In Black or some other movie “We at the FBI are not aware we have sense of humor.” Which has been superseded by the line at the GSA “If you want to find out if we have a sense of humor please fill out this form…”
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All I know is I’ve lost my sense of humor about the entire thing.
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I was told to leave stuff I didn’t know blank and they’d found out what the data was. I am SO glad I don’t do that anymore…
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No blanks. It’s all done online and if there’s a blank space… the program freezes you there until you enter something.
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I was told to put zeroes in for phone numbers I didn’t know and “Don’t Know” for any non-date. But, it’s been a while…
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You can’t. We tried…
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Why, after all this, is he still trying? I would feel unwanted by an ‘old job’ if that’s what they put me thru.
The hell with them. Quit spending tax payer money!! lol…..
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He’s determined to go back to work, and after having a good high paying job, he’s not going to be satisfied with anything else.
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Ugh – we both worked for a defense contractor (TRW) for long enough to get lifetime health care but getting it and keeping it is a nightmare. Many of the Jan 6th rioters were ex-military and so I’m sure that’s probably why the increased level of security. BTW I had to get finger printed and background checked to work with foster children … and then those same kids were often returned to ex-felon parents!
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This has been a bizarre process. He’s worked government most of his life, but this is ridiculous.
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Geez. No words on how just how ridiculous that process was
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No words necessary.
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Imagine a terrorist trying to find a way inside the government. Surely this would dtive them insane!
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Oh, I doubt it keeps the terrorists out. Just drives the innocent people to drink…
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That sounds like the premise for an author to write about!
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Filling out forms? Boring! But maybe fun for a comic writer!
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I was thinking in relation to your first comment about a terrorist being driven insane filling in the forms. That’s a novel twist you don’t see coming.
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True.enough. But I would write it as a comedy, making the questions on some of the forms totally absurd! Of course, from River’s description, sounds like most of yhe forms are already absurd!
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Very clever!
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😇
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Anytime I see “Onboarding” I am reminded of dunking people’s heads in water, for some reason as you trough through paperwork which is never fun.
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It certainly felt like we were underwater…
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I can understand why he doesn’t want you sharing your thoughts. He Really wants that job! Perhaps a Trust issue? Lol
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After all this, I just hope he’s happy with it.Separating from the government is almost as painful as joining.
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My book of quotes has man on bureaucracy. Here are the first two:
“There is only one giant machine operated by pygmies, and that is bureaucracy.” –Balzac
“The nearest approach to immortality on earth is a government bureau.” –James F. Byrnes
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Both are spot on.
👍
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My husband retired after 30 years with the gov’t (Customs) then immediately went back to work as a contractor (doing the exact same job but for more money) and then retired again after 15 years because his “every 5 years” background check” came up and he didn’t have the mental energy to do all those forms again, despite having hard copies of the previous ones to copy from.
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I got a headache just reading how many forms you had to fill out, seriously. But I feel his pain thought, I had to go through the same thing with NASA, the fingerprinting, background check and badging all took close to five months. And yet with all of this red tape he still wants to go back to work huh? lol
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I know. The things he’s bitching about now are some of the same reasons why he retired.
🤷♀️
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It’s probably for the best. I bet the survey had to be filled out in triplicate and notarized, with a dead relative as a witness.
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And a blood sacrifice, true.
Who has the time?
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Oh for the love. It would have been easier to invent a time machine, go back and not retire.
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Definitely!
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I hope after all of this, he gets the job! I can’t even imagine! Good luck to both of you! Mona
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He’s already got the job, this is just the paperwork that goes with it.
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Red tape…..my God he must really want that job!
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He worked there for 20 years. You’d think he’d know better….
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I have a feeling, if your husband knew all that was coming with the rehiring, he might have had second (or third) thoughts about going back. INSANE.
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I think he’s already having second thoughts. Not that he’d ever admit it…
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Isn’t he lucky to have the chance to change his mind and go back? Doubt I’ll get that if I retire
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He thinks so.
I’m not on board with the decision.
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